I'm just going to start it. So
So the National Life Research is quite small and fed
Where do you live and what's Victoria is doing well today, so she can't be here.
18 out 71, the first global war.
Scores parked the word. It's um
you know you want to go slow
We'll find you.
You can come and talk to us. So I'm…
I'm looking slightly erratic, so I'm afraid there are many unique holes
you have got devices that you can maintain.
Yes.
So people got their phones with them yeah i imagine the people online could be fine.
that are detected.
That went straight into it.
So this is where I wanted to skip over to mentally. So this QR code, if you go to the
Or if you go to menti.com on top three.
I probably want to go over there to work.
Finally.
Spoe.
So the code's still up now. Getting there
Okay.
right so it's about how confident you are about applying for funding. The last one, if you haven't classed on the NHL,
All right, cool.
No, it's not been quite…
so right so yeah
What do you do kind of flocking into the chips?
We would like to improve the Shakespeare and um
not quite sure where to go for information support
And kind of in the middle about
knowing in the process. I think that's fairly typical
across SBM. So some people need to know what they're doing but
to be quite difficult to find information
So who I will be
We'd like to
Yeah.
So this is kind of where the research part of this comes in. We've only been around since
I aye.
they want to come up in April. So it is certainly a work in process. Julie's been working longer in school for quite a while. I used to be based in technology, so some of you may come across my name uh
But now I'm since january
December, December, I moved into uh
research offers.
So do this is actually the only permanent member of the team
Victoria's acting head.
She's an associate director.
University of European funding layered and knowledge
Maybe you can arrive also and you'll have where this would come in as well.
sort out getting somebody set up for the nasa
kidney disease website so
We're here to help basically to facilitate um
She's finally excited about finding funding opportunities
help you find the grants and in particular doing this as an expert on
and provide best proposals by Australian majoring.
more QR code.
So we've got a SharePoint hub, which Sean will show us
We have a research bulletin that carries out all nightly
which includes what
we don't make it too long it's about three or four more
news items, which is about funding, trading.
These items also appear on Beavering damage slightly difficult to escape it, to be honest but
And we would welcome people signing up for the research policy we've got about 250 at the moment signed up
online process in mind as well or if you can find out obviously not 72 well along the first floor, then you can drop it
CEOs.
Okay, we're back.
supporting funding applications
And we…
free or broke it down to five steps and we're
developing kind of advice and guidance
You can ignore that.
We register an internal approval.
processes as well.
That's interesting.
I'm tired. This is the SharePoint site.
I just have a link to sign up to the research for the term
Scott, the email address it's got
a selection a curated selection of funding opportunities
we identify those, we try and you know
you know decide whether if something's had to be of interest to people um but also keep an eye out for something that's coming along
And then we've got the um
use and then there's
goes off to guidance.
you know information about funders.
This is an example of the research bulletin
quite clearly you know you're waking through overnight
It says that.
my God today.
I'm just going to say a little bit more about
This is Juice is favoury.
So next week there's a get back round that's that
Yeah, pretty much, yeah. There might be one place available. Well, that's
didn't have popular that's to be honest. You're right.
rather than just one of those.
And then there's also
approval of
sessions coming up on first of all newcomers to arrive in europe and then
You can stay on to your pellets too.
perhaps Slack partners for consortium and serious work.
Excellent. Yes, I'll explain in my presentation. So basically, those are collaborative projects
And I would strongly encourage you, if you have an interest in European funding.
do sign up. These are paid for um
sessions.
the trainer, both trainers are highly experienced so they've been around for many, many years
and especially you funding
one the trainer has been he's one of the
main experts on European funding in Europe. So I would strongly encourage you, if you have an interest in applying, just come along because this
this is a good opportunity to learn about the program but not
you know kind of national contact point presentation and i you know all due respect
about brilliant. These guys actually worked on
projects, programs, they inform policy and they also
explode evaluation ratios.
So you're going to hear it from the
Where's his mouth.
So then go back to the meantime.
He's only sweet.
Right.
See what?
Okay.
Oh, my God.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you.
Oh.
We've got four food sparkles there. So yeah, we've got quite a range here
If I could out you listen. I think someone's got a lot more.
Right, okay, so we've got quite a range for that incident and one of these ones help people kind of learn from each other, share, experiences.
So which…
Obviously, if you're not
Thank you.
Bloody, but…
it seems funnest.
Well, we can help with that.
I have his infrastructure problems.
Okay, thank you.
It's our wicked approach.
That?
And I suppose a slight aside, because I know people do
fellowships.
Amazing what he
Thank you for online.
Have you got an idea i just applied for one okay but if that doesn't go through, then I'll be applying for more in the future.
those Royal Society. Oh, Royal Society by UK, yeah.
there's always quite the range of battleship and I know Thomas didn't very well upon
So certainly European funding is
quite popular and surprisingly.
so
what sport from the research office?
or we've got any other thoughts.
spot. Uh-huh.
which is why the slide i think so if you have any thoughts about what would help
really makes mistakes, right? Yeah.
a lot of Hispanic funding schemes.
Yeah.
You…
Possibly.
Yeah, approving set.
I have to bring one point something
And they've got a little palm on the internet and they're pretty sure the information's there but
who's eligible for what
So with these slides be circulating? Yes. So I've left the momentum or left the link live for a week. So if you have any other thoughts
I think that's good.
Yes, obviously.
Okay, so I'm going to come over
Do you do this.
you can find it. God bless you.
So how much time have we got?
It's 11.45 now. We've got 12.30 in the question. Okay.
Well, that would go on for a long time, probably all day. Well, we don't want that.
so um
It's European funding.
It's a very, very um
complex and complicated landscape so
I'll just go to
Presentation.
on what is available.
why well first of all, why, why should you consider applying for your family?
what's available out there and how to apply
So please do interrupt me if you have any questions. I'd like this to be a discussion really.
I think this is a good opportunity to gauge more
what your research interests are in the department.
yours, your colleagues, whether you funding
may interest you.
If not.
we can sidepost you to other type funding that may be available.
And what's mostly forum is that we start this conversation and we understand what your research interests are.
So why should you apply for EU funding?
Well, there is a lot of money available.
So we are halfway through the horizon europe programme, which I'm going to focus on
in a minute but some
It's the biggest research and innovation program in the world, 95.5 billion euros
stop each one happens.
And the UK is contributing to this programme.
UKRIs and SDFC delivery plan and its strategic objectives.
You remember recognized the objectives.
world-class people and careers you know how to develop
your careers
accessibility whether it's it's not at least it's a terrible kind of
have access to world-class ideas um
Shannon checks for knowledge and lead on earth innovative practices
in world-class places. So you experience different cultures which probably were already doing that in a different work environment
world-class innovation.
developing cutting edge technology and create business opportunities
with world-class impacts.
collaborating internationally to address global challenges.
And working with world-class organizations
We're already doing that now.
accessing state of view.
citizen research so just to give you a
an overview of or snapshot of
oh well we're doing in Horizon Europe.
The success rate is quite high for
for SCFC. So 35% success rate so you're not going to waste your time
I hope the support is there.
There are the cores are very, very competitive.
But rest assured.
you are in good hands so um
We've got 31 rising europe proposals which have been awarded so far across
old problems.
And there are more proposals going in as we speak.
So rest assured, you'll be supported.
Sorry, it's not 31 across UK ROI. That's ICFC.
Unfortunately.
It's not that easy to collect the data. So there is a lot of
analysis and uh you know different paths of the
different places you have to look in to collect
kind of data and
there are good reasons for that. It's not just the systems are not up scratch, but there are good reasons for that.
one thing to guarantee the relationship with europe
all that affected where the money's coming from.
But now that's been resolved.
So that brings me to EU-UK relationship in relation to the EU programs. So it's the 1st of january
The UK has associated to horizon europe and Copernicus, but not to Europe at all
So what that means is that UK organisations think about spade in most schools.
but for the 2024 work program
onwards. Why I'm saying most calls is because there are certain calls that the uk
probably about 1%, but the UK could not but or can't participate in at the moment
some quantum calls
on some
some space holes.
But I know that many, very, very few.
and our colleagues in national contact points are negotiating with the commission to allow us participate in those
A meeting or on security.
But there are very, very few.
One exception.
major exception that we know of is the EIC fund.
we can apply to the European Innovation Council
Grand Funk, but not the equity fund.
So all the other
successful applications under this 2021, 22 and 23 work programs are funded through the guarantee VPRI guarantee.
So they are funded slightly differently.
but that's still part of the same consortia just
get money from somewhere else.
So UK is considered a known associated third country in these programs
Quite interestingly, and this is announced back in May, the UK joined the
european high performance computing joint undertaking
or Euro HPC.
And you can't afford it.
So we can participate in calls
launched by uh euro hpc
or we can also participate in accessing their facilities. So there are supercomputers across Europe
we can access spain and
Finland, Italy.
I don't quite know how we're going to access them.
But this is a dark mom.
are working on rather than the MCAT.
Julius, in that case other bids into that to get time on the computers or are they also put effort to use the time on computers
Just doing the allocation.
I think it's both.
but it's not clear how
obviously it's working practice.
We had somebody from
a couple of months ago, we had a visit from
What's a senior person, not the director, I think it's lun in Finland. They came to see us um and uh
they talk through scientific computing those people from eti there
international
I don't think a decision was made.
but discussions have started. So if you want to find out more about this, if you are interested in
I spoke to new calls, your agency calls or
accessing the supercomputers.
do get in touch and I'll find out for you.
So just some information about the budget contribution to Horizon Europe is about 2 billion a year.
focus on public search freedom.
And then we don't attract sufficient funding, then there's going to be a
recalculation and the money will come back to the UK.
So what funding is available? As I mentioned earlier, Horizon Europe is the EU's framework which um
confirming what research and innovation funding program, largest in the world. I mentioned the budget, 81 billion runs until 2027
that's when the program ends but there will be
projects that will be awarded in the final year
they'll be running many years after.
five, six, depending.
But that's when the new 2027
horizon europe land and the new fp7 it's called at the moment it's left behind horizon europe
we stopped.
it's quite important that negotiations started early on on FP7 and that sorry fp 10 they're quite advanced
and um if
If you have any
interest, any ideas or how do you want to influence
the new program what we have to do
we don't see it first or at least a graph draft
I can find out where they are with negotiations
But they are kept on the ramps.
If you want to input into the new
program if you are familiar with the elements of actually knives.
But he won't concluding.
And we want to in-person jfp
So we'll get in touch because we've got many channels that you can use
So the program is divided in Verizon Europe divided into three pillars, so three major funding instruments um so
kind of warm sports excellence in science and I've got a nice diagram on the next slide
Pillar two focuses on global challenges, solving global challenges through collaborative research innovation and pillar three supports business growth and competitiveness. And there are other parts of the horizon europe that support research infrastructures and participation.
And some of the key priority areas are in space, digital, energy, industry, pharmacy.
so
This is the diagram.
what funding is available to know what's available and
SCFC has been quite successful
and none book i have
I'm doing perhaps.
So in fact, we've had
runs on the European Research Council, which are frontier research grants for individuals
And Sinead is well familiar with
You've got to see funding.
We have grants on demand actions. I'll just give you one example. We had to return the money for Burke Horizon Europe grant.
But the outcome was positive because although we were successful
the research.
decided the fellow decided life or job here at SDFC and sign into
state was at CFC is nice.
As we turn the response actually granted.
you know we said about which is possible
But if you are an employee to apply
to upholds postal.
It's possible.
trees for two years.
you'll be working on this ground.
but still working on the home.
objects.
It will be fully funded by the EU.
Let's take pictures.
a nice object available.
Research infrastructures, that's our bread and butter. So we've got about 66% of our grants, new grants are research and construction grants can that be horrible you said something that fully funded
When we talk fully funded assets and augmented over it.
to 74.
And I remember that when we were suggesting that we would apply for funding, people said well where are you going to get the 49% from? At which point lots of things fell short.
it was just impossible to argue with that here.
But it must still be positive like how can we do this also. In general, right? But is that something that you so research officers can
work on right that we that we because because this is a it's fixed right the erc absolutely and horizon europe it's it's axiomatic, right? Is that a correct understanding but
that's not something that on that side is not something that we could extend.
On the other side, we have to look at whether you just suggest that people might actually continue doing exactly what they used to do, just thunder through the European Union, at which point this must be a win for SDFC. Yeah, it's a certain point.
Overall, the money's coming in right and so it's research funding.
So this this is the
the most common issue that is raised with us we did have them
Victoria and I had a conversation with and claire
Shepard very recently. There was a bit of a paper
to EB.
on this subject and Julie, if you're aware of the overheads
project to finance.
No, I know they're going well. They're going to, well, they've been talking about recalculating the
My take on that is I don't think the percentage, I don't think that will resolve the issue because that's a separate issue that's you know the overheads are the overheads
you can't do anything about it you know you may
they might go up and down, whatever. I think the fundamental issue here is the perception that EU funding
actually is making a lot and that's why
That's the fundamental issue. And I don't think that should happen and i think
What we need here, the research office is not going to resolve this on its own because this is a wider STFC issue and
I think that steps is…
I don't know how the other councils are absorbing the
the seed loss but scoffc because the way we operate in front uh such high overheads
is causing this negative perception that
be funding courses.
deficit. To me, that's
that's an artificial construct.
I know that's what finance says. These guys, they cost this much their salary plus 74
all being here. But let's not forget that a lot of people
working from home, they're traveling, they're conducting their research elsewhere
and
I think the proposal
And I think I think
I'm not saying this will happen but
the suggestion is that perhaps you should create a fund that national labs level to absorb this silk seed old has
rather over at loss rather than the problem to absorb it.
often reasonably easy to solve it for the very two reactions because they're
often refers to individuals but when it comes to data things that cover multiple departments it would need approval from multiple department directors and then it needs something that sits on top of them
Right, but I think, I mean, the message here is that
there are these opportunities and it is happening, right? And okay, yes, there is this headache of the overheads and how that's viewed, but I think we should be very clear with people you know with individuals thinking about going for these grants
it's wide open, right? You should do so it brings in potentially you know really different flavor of research as well right it can be
it can be a completely different composition from what you do at the moment. So it can be something that you're doing or it can be something really different and exciting. And I think that that's something to explore. It's not just about the money it's about the opportunities that accessing European funding
And it's not just European funding, it's the European research area
Because, you know, just think of your careers. I mean, I'm not encouraging anything here but
ERC grants are horrible.
So if you want a grant.
You can take whatever you want, as long as it's in Europe or
country.
For example, I'm just saying.
Before Brexit, lots of people who came to the uk
the exodus from the uk
prior to uh you know after the referendum and and since Brexit
seem actually what people
suggesting. So more family researchers, some, but not primarily to europe
But you're absolutely right. So most about Q reactions actually because the way they are funded, they're not funded on actual costs. They are funded on unit costs.
It's a certain amounts set by the commission
I'm not subject to the subject.
open heads. Yes.
Sir, I was talking about research infrastructures
two-thirds of our applications and grants are for research infrastructure calls and we have been very very successful
So I'll be covered here.
have a look at that particular um
funding instrument and I'll cover it in the next slide.
So pillar two, this is the largest funding port
So it covers global challenges, industrial competitiveness
we have applied as SDFC to
costs that so these are all
it cost us so to digital, that's across the board, digital industry and space
And last at five, climate, energy and mobility.
So these are the main clusters that we apply for.
There are some work programs on the development at the moment that haven't been published, but I can provide you on the answer.
confidence as long as they
They stay within SDFC.
We've got pillar three innovative europe european innovation council two
proposals have gone in today.
So these are for supporting innovation in Europe and Europe.
working with businesses so they're more
for example distance oriented by high trl
Not all of them.
program is structured in three different
So it starts with low tier and moves up to the other
I know that all we have applied for
Lighting participation of spreading excellence. So that's
that's something to consider.
it's kind of
more knowledge sharing.
kind of capacity building with other countries
But I'm not there.
you guys should perhaps is not as strong as the
Right, we can move on.
Any questions so far?
Well, doesn't make sense.
Yeah, sure. So just um
So as far as the grounds of culture what's what's
What's the scope of grants
you can apply for and also typically successful from the really simple basic ground where maybe the research is already taken place all he wants is maybe funding the travel or to okay i've got this big project where i need hardware stuff. What's the range of projects that you can imagine
There's also some correlation to what is successful. If you say, oh, that's what it means
It depends. So, for example, European Research Council grants that are funding your research so they are really going for the top novelty breakthrough technologies
And that's why they are very competitive and very prestigious.
there are the mice for those salary grounds they for example
going back to the ERC grants, they will pay for equipment, they will pay so if you want a new laptop or new
fancy iMac as well as is
is justified, you can purchase it.
So it's PI-led
project and the PR cards.
travel to conferences, not the research and so forth.
My school looks like you read grants about the
First of all okay so it's spelled the career the the research the
research development so that fits in with research and research development
program.
research infrastructures the
big collaborations um
the funding. I'll cover all that later. It'll make more sense when I go into specific uh
So just a few things to know.
what types of projects will answer some of your questions so types of projects you know research
research innovation, they call them actions
So they'll tell you that that's where the TRL level is
serious innovation actions
6 to 9.
about 77%, they think 100% now.
the fully funded
most of the options, most of the projects are 100% plus 95% overheads
But there are some ports that don't fund
100%. So even on the
research infrastructures that would fund 70% or 80%. So you need to fund the extra
It usually comes from a slip.
There are some other programs
where they only funded with fifty percent
And coordination and support actions
I think we'll discuss something earlier that are more policy critical
So the consortia is a minimum, if you work in a partnership, there's a minimum eligibility criteria there's a treat criteria meaning three independent legal entities
one of which has to be based in a
you know you member state um
And the other two could be associated contracts.
So UK can participate with
you know another
with Switzerland and France, let's say.
That's the minimum. Typical proposals could range from 1 to 10 million but
we do have projects here that are in excess of 10 million.
So it really really depends.
But that's the on average.
duration two to three years
again these are collaborative projects. There are projects that last longer than that, last six years, such as ERC Synergy plans
And if you get an extension.
six to 12 months.
you are to that so uh
they could last a long time.
project, Israel costs 100% plus 25% overhead or something above that.
So I was talking about European Research Council grants so these are ERC funds for ambitious frontier research
submitted by PI, principal investigator in the area of research and our predefined priorities. So these are bottom up
you've got an idea.
and you try to implement it. Collaborative projects are top-down
the commission says his provinces and you have to come up with a proposal within the
addressing those commission tells us.
to address.
Scientific excellence is the sole evaluation criteria
and scientific excellence of the PR's track record.
It's very, very significant.
There are three different types of grants.
often consolidate data and advanced.
there is another type of graph which is not there. It's a synergy graph which we haven't had any synergy graphs yet.
talking for you those are collaborative
the two and four PIs.
So from different institutions, the budget
for synergy grants is up to 10 million so that
bigger grants and six years.
duration so
If you are interested, there are quite a few proposals going in for signature plans at the moment so it is a very
the requirements for
member states were similar?
within the UK.
Good question.
they can be solely within the UK. So the eligibility criteria doesn't apply the three
but they're very very
competitive but having said that, I think the latest synergy grants have quite a high
Success rate.
I don't speak late, but it was 30 plus percent
okay so these are
This is the work program 2025, which is available now for the european research council
funds.
And these are the calls that
will be available
this has already opened and
closed yesterday, Mom.
The consolidated grant
has opened and it closes in January.
the advanced grant uh
Closed.
and the synergy ground
Sort of. No, that's next, yeah.
it's mixed up ideas. So it's uh
one was closed recently. So there is a
This is going to open in May.
closing folder. So as you see that the
I'm not talking about that.
which negligence.
know better than I how long it takes to write an ERC grant, but I was working with someone from the PI from Warwick who
actually wrote himself the application
needed some help with the budget
We did it to about
30 days.
So without help from the research office.
That's why we're at. He had a very clear idea of what
As a result of that ground up, we have a proof of concept ground which follow that
I didn't have a proof of concept rounds but
So you need to have an ERC grant in order to
applied for the concert.
And he's now set up his own business.
talks of war adventures and so
It was really, really clear what he wanted to do.
Okay.
So the Synergy Grant is still open.
But…
It's too late. It's too black for us.
And it takes the wine to the wine
you know to get the
the funding and start the project.
But they are very good at proceedings.
conduct your own research.
And you have an indication so the budgets and millions and an indication of roughly how many
proposals will be funded.
Any questions so far? You mentioned the success rate of gypsies and engagement was 35%.
Do you know for these individual ones how we're doing for the individual grants or the synergy one how we do compared to say a university to disclose all the numbers from your previous university but comparing the lab with you know the university sector
Do you see much of a difference just on those individual yes
I haven't done an analysis because it's quite
tricky to find the data that
if the level is not really, really granular i mean we can find it, but it takes a while
Because the system's up.
be temperamental. And also that's skewed by the guarantee
I really don't know.
you know unless we go to UKRI and
get the list of
We don't publish those statistics, so we need to go to UKRI.
there is something on the dashboard, it's called on the dashboard
on the eu portal
where you can get
based on per country, number of participations and also
very institution see which institutions are doing
the best in Europe.
But again, the data from the UK is skewed
will tell you the participations but it's not going to tell you the success rate and it's not going to tell you the amount of money
And I guess the thing is that there are, I mean, you've come from the university system where there's a lot of support for grant writing and I think that we have to
make sure that we engage with the opportunities that there are here and actually Julius's experience and Catherine's, but yours in particular because i think you
we're supporting ELC grant writing in universities.
And that's a really great thing to have in STFC that we should have that dialogue. And if you have an idea, then I think you've had some great experience. If I can share something, we're not doing very well in terms of my historical dotsky QE and the RC grants. There is a reason for that. So I'll
one of the comments from a
I think it was a rise in Europe, one of the early applications for standard
starting grants, we actually starting grants. One of the comments in Europe was that uh
this research hasn't
In addition, he showed the independent research
So that's one of the things that probably
need to think about.
how can we support individual PIs
who's you know the working part of
feeds sometimes quite wider teams, scattered all over the country and possibly europe
That's not a lab specific thing, right? That's a field-specific thing. And that is the challenge always for political physicists, right? That we work really collaboratively and that's a brilliant thing but then we need to draw out what the individual
So I think engaging with
with Judas and with colleagues and with these training events which helps you to think about that that side of things how you draw out that path doesn't it because it is a feel it's an issue of our field that we need to have
collaboration that's a great thing and then you say why is it that you could put something that wouldn't have happened otherwise
If we know, the other thing is.
And you all worked on
particularly you funding you would know that
at the very last minute.
proposals going against. So we tend to be approached
This is almost giving you judgment here. It's just what's happening. So we are being reactive
we approached for various reasons we approached by other people, other organizations quite late
And that puts a lot of pressure on our resources.
That's particularly for club projects that's the case and i have
a couple of examples today when we're still working on the budget this morning
So I only found out about this through proposals in the last few days.
And sometimes they don't even know if they register.
Oh, yeah. So much health problem.
But maybe I have more time. I've already answered some questions.
So my grants are covered some of the aspects. So there are research projects, they fund research projects with training aspects. Bottom up, you know, the subject area
They facilitate research and mobility, interdisciplinary, intersectoral and international
If you want specific
training information sessions, whatever. I'm quite happy to go into more detail and
all this specific funding instruments
So they house the skills and careers of researchers the duration is
of a project is between 12 and 36 months
And the budget, as I mentioned, I've certainly and these are some of the current
with open and upcoming calls so doctoral networks are open deadline 27th of november and
Let me see.
I'll circulate this.
these slides.
that will be, I'm sure that will be of interest so you can't see that's 2025
Good to open anchor.
I mean, possibly.
Research infrastructures. Please do take this with a pinch of salt. One saying that this is based on the information based on
down down here from this point down this information is
So what we know for certain, having said that, what we know for certain, we know what the opening deadline the opening
stage four callers.
usually much earlier in the year
this on the ground because of the European elections and the form of commissioners
has taken forever.
They moved the deadlines next year.
This is going to be interesting next summer.
This deadline is the 18th of September.
So I suspect there will be lots and lots of
Okay, she's here again so
think how to manage that. So the earlier you think of
joining a project with better
I can circulate the draft programme.
But please keep it. Can I just made one remark on that slide i think this is really a key bit on the previous one. This is a key place where labs, I think, have an advantage. We are here
in part to do infrastructure. So all of the brilliant individual research that applies to those other schemes but this is a part that I think that we should really seriously think about when we're going to come together to talk about strategy in the coming weeks
And this is one of the things that we should think about.
And there are ideas out there that aren't necessarily math-based, that people are thinking about and give an example of the half accelerator, which is this concept at the moment, which is a half plasma, half
that's under the acceleration this is a place where I think we can really gain would you absolutely totally totally agree and the other thing is we tend to compete with other departments. We need to know
We need to know how many proposals are going in
when people are thinking about putting an appraisal. But because of the
fact that we are being approached quite late
We don't always know.
And this proposal
opening up on the bid register very, very late so
you know maybe maybe you know we should there should be a bit more coordination with other departments so we don't compete i mean
is an element of competition.
And the more proposal put in.
the greater chance to have to get one but
several. But we just probably want to move lots from five
Well, the success rate was back.
Good.
Right, plus the fork. I mentioned past the four already. There are two uh
About.
So the digital industry and space um
I think digital and industry will be of interest. I've called the draft work program. I can share that with you.
I won't go into his own project.
So please do have a look at the topics
we call them commission called them the destination the job
kind of strategic policies, policy priorities, have a look at those destinations
I'll definitely find something of interest there.
if you don't know what to look for.
starts me in what state you'll drop me an email, statewide what your research interest is
Class of five, climate, energy, mobility, energy definitely
So again, there is a draft where the program hasn't been approved yet.
go around for me to use our meeting next month.
finalize them, he gets in touch.
body participation, I mentioned this briefly, this is for capacity building i think
in the proposal. So again.
That's something of interest that
I can request speak volts for you.
Moving on, this is cost
Again, boldly participate in the cost proposal
this is kind of
pre-horizon Europe. So if you're new to the program you want to be part of a
partnership, you can access it also
I don't think we've had any pros on the cross but uh
all of people around campus.
And you can join us at any point. I think that's more like the thing you were talking about, Manny. So it's really it's no
don't get any echo from it, but it's a network building thing
I mean, farms things like events
trouble. It doesn't function.
College access funding, well, first of all is us
coming for class.
sign up for the research bulletin
such offers bulletin.
you on the attendance portal. We don't have time to look at the portal now
But…
we can run a session on that of fund funding or
That's just a little shout, so…
sign up for the bulletin.
This is the research office support and the
basically all you ground management cycles
I'm still looking as a PM. I'm still looking after Jennifer to
projects. I need to talk to you about that one
So we offer you full support through all across the board, but Catherine touched upon this. I'm not going through this too much, but we can help you with
We know the interactions for you, by the way.
keep them up absolutely.
We are quite happy to have a look at the draft. We're quite happy to
talk to natural contact points and they not all of them but some of them and i know uh which ones offer actually a proposal screening. It's not to be
So resources and contacts and i think that's it on 1230. Well done.
Anybody have any burning questions that haven't been asked? Two questions.
Daisy swear by sending out their
grant proposals to an independent reviewer to make sure it has all the EU buzzwords in it. Do we do that or have that expertise in-house?
That's an interesting one. I mean, if they do that, there are certain calls that are very very um
You need technical expertise.
okay um and also
Those videos actually.
people who are reviewers
They reviewed proposals, these proposals, and so they're registered on the on the view portal
you are technical experts.
I would suggest.
you want to pay as well as well.
He pays 450 euros per day, but do register
If you go to state your interest
you register on the website i can i can uh i can share the details with you
a lot of people do that. Universities do that. People working in research schools
full services do that. I know a few
PIs within SDFC who have been reviewers.
perhaps we didn't have to
I know at least one department who paid as part of
consortium paid for all
a subtle
consultant to a lot of the application or improve
certain sections, especially the impact section
I don't think we've got that.
kind of capacity yet
And there are good reasons for it.
Because you need…
we can help you with that. We can certainly help you with DRC grants and minus those regulatory grants to that.
you need to have a need to have
Depends. Again, it depends which which
which funding you are applying for but
if it's more commercial or commercial
chooses.
you meet somebody who's
works in business development.
with that kind of
knowledge of the sector.
Okay. And a follow-up question um
Well, Verizon Aida, the overheads of managing it
was enormous. And I think we spent more time managing it and filling in forms and actually doing any work
Has that improved?
Well, for a start, we don't report on overheads.
Nobleheads are just given to you, 25%. You don't have to justify them.
But we had to justify every hour we worked on it and we had to fill in
paper. I don't know if that's a timesheet.
now the commission is trying to move away from the system of keeping timesheets. Now, what the commission are saying is that it's the institution's own practices. So if the practice is to keep timesheets
then have to keep timesheets.
If we're moving to if the you know if we decide that for you
But again, we need to have a policy right across the country oh
or any other UKRI fund projects, you keep timesheets for not four year projects
So it's got to be a policy across the organization.
Now, the other thing is.
They're moving away towards this lump sum funding model which
is minimum
sole number contributions, minimum number of
counting evidence.
required okay so we just need a clear and financial plan
Because we're still we're a public body, we're still accountable
to national audits.
topics and
we need to
We need to keep conscious.
I think we can work around that, make it much easier
There is supporting finance that
people that sound of students who help with the timesheet so very support
They can generate timesheets, they can collect them
So I'm no expert on this because it's all
say through dred kelsey
on the number of fees the EU.
project but so you still seem to complain about having to do timesheets and things no one likes good time the
What's the timesheet interview? Yes.
Good night.
does indicate that maybe it's different in different departments and
possibly different in different countries.
that the uk auditors are more
stringent.
No, I wouldn't say that. If you ever had an audit from the European Commission or from and some of them, yeah, some of them are UK appointed, they're all from the
The European Court of Auditors.
You'd appreciate it.
why you keep timesheets because they actually do ask for that. There is another thing here they
So essentially, it's up to the institution, okay? So it's the institution's own accounting procedures and policies. So that's our procedures and policies we need to keep timesheets
try to simplify them.
Let's see how
The other point I want to make is that
you if the timesheets
don't require sufficient information or they don't exist or they're filled in incorrectly
There is something else, but the auditors would want to see is alternative evidence and that's
subject to interpretation.
So we need to prove that he worked on a certain project. And I've been myself through that kind of audit
Where, you know, you know you
oh my god why didn't I keep timesheets?
So because they want to look at everything, love books you know when you enter the building, when you left, how much time you worked on the project.
I think it's lunchtime now. So we'll say thank you to Julia