STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Nicely.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But the national life research, quite small and said.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: is as well today. So she's probably here. But
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: it is in our 71, the 1st global.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It's quite packed away. It's you know
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you find us, or we'll find you.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Yes, good. So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Afraid there are many linked old.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And you all got devices that you can do managing user.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: is it a telephone? Yeah.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So people got their phones with them. Yeah.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: somewhere in the chat.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: so we'll go straight into it.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So this is where.com and pop the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: how are you doing?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Probably want to go over there to work.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: hang on.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: so the code still up there getting there.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Okay.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: right? So this is about how confident you are about the last one. If you haven't applied from the United
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: cool.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: not looking quite.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Oh, so now, that's up
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: so fine. So yeah.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: pumping in big chips.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So that kind of you know, we would like to improve the experience.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: not quite sure where to go for information and support
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and kind of in the middle about knowing in the process. Think that's very simple
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: across, Spo. So some people need to know what they're doing. But
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: sometimes it's quite difficult to find information.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So well, it is
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: going back to
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: yeah.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: so this is kind of where the research part is. Now, we've only been around since
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: January. I I came onto coma in April. So it is certainly working process for quite a while. I used to be based in technology. So some of you may may come across my name. But now I'm
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: since January.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: December early December, I moved into a research office
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and I said, Julius is actually an independent member of the team
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: acting head. She's an associate director
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: mainly. You can also any other queries that come in as well like sort out getting somebody set up within that. So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: opportunities website. So we're here to help basically to facilitate
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and applications funding. So help finding funding opportunities.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: help you find the branding and provide best proposals to advice, training and measuring
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and more QR code.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So we've got a sharepoint hub, which side will show us
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: which on the next next slide we have a research bulletin that goes out fortnightly, which includes about.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: We don't make it too long. It's about 3 or 4 more news items, which is about funding training.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: News items also appear on beaver engage we've discovered as well. So it's slightly difficult to escape here to be honest. But yeah, we would
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: yeah, welcome people signing up for the research volunteer. We've got about 250 at the moment signed up.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And then, of course, this email as well, or if you can find out, obviously not 71 on the 1st floor, then you can drop in
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Ceos.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: let's say we've got
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: supporting funding applications.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And we've
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and we
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: 3 awards and broke it down to 5 steps. And we're
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: developing kind of advice and guidance.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And along, you know, only 5 steps, and it interweaves with the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: that was good
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: appetite. This, this is the sharepoint site.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It does have a link to sign up to the research bulletin.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It's got the email address. It's got a selection, a curated selection of funding opportunities. We identify those we try. And you know.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you know, decide whether it's something that would be of interest to people, so we can keep an eye out for something that's coming along. And then we've got the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and use. And then there's goes off to guidance.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: You know, information about funders. This is an example of the research bulletin
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: quite clean.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Might have a day
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: just gonna say a little bit more about
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and training. This is Julius's baby.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: next week there to get that round is that?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. It might be one place available.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: How popular! That's being honest. You're right
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: running this one of those.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And then there's also
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: a couple of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: sessions coming up on. Well, 1st of all, newcomers to arrive in Europe, and then
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you can sew right in your pillar, too.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But I've had slack partners for consulting energy as well.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Yeah. So I'll explain in in my presentation. So basically, those are collaborative projects.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and I would strongly encourage you if you have an interest in European funding, do sign up. These are paid for
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: sessions.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: The trainer both trainers are highly experienced, so they've been around for many, many years.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and especially you funding
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: one the trainer has been. He's he's 1 of the the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: main experts on European funding in in Europe, so I'll strongly encourage you if you have an interest in in applying. Just come along because this
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: this is a good opportunity to to learn about the program, but not, you know, kind of national contact point presentation. And I, you know all due respect about brilliant. These guys actually worked on
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: projects programs. They inform policy. And they also
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: expert evaluations.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So you're going to hear it from the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: where's his mouth
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you want?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Take it out. Yep.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So then go back to the manager.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It's only sweet.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: rough. But
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: do you drag?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Okay?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Oh.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: 4 people, 5. Yeah.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: okay.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: let's see. Oh.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: we've got 14 responses there. So yeah, we've got quite a range here.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Right? Okay, so we've got quite a range for that experience help people kind of learn.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: that's why it was okay.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: provided for research based on exact amounts.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: so, which
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: obviously, you're not
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: flavor.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It's always fun than us.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Well, we can certainly help with that.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I think I I have his infrastructure fund.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I'm guessing
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: which is approach
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: what?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And I suppose slight aside because I know people do.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I've just thought a bit about fellowships.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I mean, is anybody
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: or online.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I just applied for one. But if that doesn't go through, then I'll be applying for more in the future. That was Royal Society. Oh, Royal society. Right? Okay? Yeah.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: because there is quite a range of fellowships. And I know Thomas, at least, you know, seems very well upon
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: on that right? So certainly European funding is
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: quite popular. Sdx, uk, and infrastructure
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: fun.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: right?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: what sport from the recent?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Or if you've got any other thoughts
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: in spots like oh.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: this is my last slide. I think so. If you just have any thoughts about what would help
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: it's mistakes. Right? Yeah.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: design and funding schemes.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Yeah.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: awesome.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Yeah, we have to focus on approving search.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But I have seen one comment, something.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Yeah, they kind of looked on the Internet. And they're pretty sure the information is there helpful?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Could they find this if they found something? Was it up to date? So it's certainly something you could do about who's eligible for what?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Right? Okay? So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: yes, let me see.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Okay. So let's I'm going to hand over.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Do you do this?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So crowd.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So how much time have we gone to?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It's 1145 now until 1230 in the question
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: that would go on for a long time, probably all day. Well, we don't want that.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: it's European funding. It's a very, very complex and complicated landscape. So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I'll
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: just go to
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: presentation.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: All I'm
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: what is available.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Why? Well, 1st of all, why, why should you consider? Apply for your family
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: what's available out there, and how to how to apply?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So please do interrupt me if you have any questions. I'd like this to be a discussion. Really, I think this is a good opportunity to to gauge more
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: what your research interests are in in the department. Yours. Your colleagues.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Whether you funding
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: may interest you.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and if not.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: we can side post you to to other type of funding that may be available.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And what's most important is that we we start this conversation. And we we understand what what your research interests are
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: so why why should you apply for for EU funding?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Well, there is a lot of money available.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It will start.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So we are halfway through the horizon Europe program which I'm going to focus on
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: in a minute.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It's a.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: it's the biggest research and and innovation program in the world. 95.5 billion euros
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: stop each 1 billion. And the Uk is contributing into this program. So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: we'll start with aligns to Ukris and Sdfc delivery plan. And it's digital objectives.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you remember the you recognize the objectives
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: world class people and careers, you know, help develop
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: your careers.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: access mobility, whether it's it's it's not currently specific.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: have access to world class ideas, and
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: share them, share knowledge and lead on innovative practices. In world class places. So experience different cultures which probably already doing that and different work environments. World class innovation,
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: developing, cutting edge technology and create business opportunities
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: with world class impacts.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: collaborating internationally to address global challenges. And working with world world class organizations.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: We're already doing that
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: accessing site. Again.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: citizen research. So just to give you a
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: an overview of, or snapshot of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: how well we're doing in in horizon Europe.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: the success rate is quite high for for Scfc, so 35% success rate. So you're not going to waste your time.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Oh, I hope
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: the support is there?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: There are. The calls are very, very competitive.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: but rest assured
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you are in good hearts.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: We've got 31 rising Europe proposals which have been awarded so far across
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: all the buttons.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And there are more proposals going in as we speak, so
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: rest assured you'll be supported.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: unfortunately.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: it's not that easy to collect the data. So there is a lot of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: analysis. And you know, different paths of of of the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: different places you have to look into, collect that kind of data. And
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: there are good reasons for that. It's not just that the systems are not are not up scratch. But there are good reasons for that one being the guarantee the relationship with Europe.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: how that affected where the money is coming from. But now that's been resolved. So that brings me to EU Uk relationship in relation to the EU programs. So it's the 1st of January.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Let me see it.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: The Uk has associated to Verizon, Europe and Copernicus, but not the euro at all.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So what that means that Uk organizations can participate in most calls
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But for the 2024 work program
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: onwards. Why, I'm saying most calls is because there are certain calls that the Uk.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: apparently about 1%. But the Uk. Could not but or can't participate in at the moment
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: some quantum calls
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and some some space walls.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: but not that many, very, very few.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and our colleagues in in national contact points are negotiating with with the Commission to to allow us to participate in those those calls now mainly around security.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But they're very, very few.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and one exception, major exception that we know of is the Eic Fund. We can apply to the European Innovation Council Grant Fund, but not the Equity fund.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So all the other
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: successful applications under under this 2021, 22, and 23 work programs are funded through the guarantee Bki guarantee.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So they are
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: funded slightly differently. But they're still still part of the same consortium. Just get money from somewhere else.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So Uk is considered a known associated 3rd country in these programs.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: quite interestingly. And this is this is announced back in May that Uk joined the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: European high performance, computing joint undertaking
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: or euro Hpc.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: in brief,
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and become the 35th participating today. So we we can participate in calls
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: launched by euro hpc, or we can also participate in accessing their facilities. So there are supercomputers across Europe.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: if you can access Spain and
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Finland, Italy.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: we don't quite know how we're going to access them.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But this is our mom
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: working on the real estate agent.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and Julius in that case, are the other bits into that to get time on the computers? Or are they also put effort to use the time on the computers
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: just stepping.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So only allocation.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I think I think it's both.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: but it's not clear how
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I would say it's working practice.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: We had somebody from
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: couple of months ago we had a visit from
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: quite a senior person not the the director of the in Finland. They- they came to see us and they talked to scientific computing, those people from either
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: international
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I don't think a decision was made.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: but discussions started. So if you want to find out more about this. If you are interested in
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: participating in calls, your agency calls or accessing the the supercomputers
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: do get in touch, and I'll I'll find out for you.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: so just some information about the budget, the budget contribution to Verizon, Europe is about 2 billion a year
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: focus about
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And then, if you don't attract sufficient funding, then it's going to be a
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: recalculation, and the money will will come back to the Uk.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So what funding is available. As I mentioned earlier, horizon, Europe is the EU's framework
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: current framework research and innovation funding program, largest in the world. I mentioned the budget 81 billion runs until 2027.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: That's when the program ends. But there will be
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: projects that will be awarded in the final year. That will be running
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: maybe years off, but
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: 5, 6 depending.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But that's when the new 2027
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: horizon Europe lent, and the new Fp. 7. It's called at the moment. Horizon Europe.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: We'll start.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It's quite important that you know. The negotiations started early on on Fp. 7, and that sorry fp. 10 that quite advanced.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: If if
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you have any
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: interest, any ideas, or how do you want to influence the new program, what we have to do
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: we want to see if there's at least a rough draft which I
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and I can find out where they are with negotiations.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: but they have kept on the ramps.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: if you want to input into the new
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: program, if you are familiar with elements of F 9. But you want improving
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and want to to input into Fp and do get in touch because we've got many channels that we can use.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So the program is divided in horizon. Europe divided into 3 pillars so 3 major funding instruments. So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: pillar one sports excellence in science, and I've got a a nice diagram on the next slide.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: pillar 2 focuses on global challenges, solving global challenges through collaborative research, innovation and pillar. 3, 3 supports business growth and competitiveness. And there are other parts of horizon Europe that support research infrastructures in one participation
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and some of the key priority areas on space, digital energy industry farmers.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: this is the diagram.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: what funding is available. It's fine for them to know what's available. And
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Sdfc has been quite successful in the number of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: funding or funding programs. So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: in fact, we had
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: grants under the European Research Council, which are frontier research grants for individuals, and Sinead is well familiar with.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you gotta see funding
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: we. We have grants on the mice, for those have a few actions. I'll just give you one example. We have to return the money for horizon Europe, grant
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But the outcome was was positive, because, although we were successful.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: the researcher
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: decided the fellow decided by for a job here at Sdfc. And decided to stay with it. Sdfc. As I said.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: number of song
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and return the the my response actually, Grant
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: having said about it is possible.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But if you are an employee to apply, if you're post post, Doc can apply for
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: which means for 2 years.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you'll be-. You'll be
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: working on this grant.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: but still working on your project, your career.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: it will be fully funded by- by the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: have a nice object available.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: the research infrastructures. That's our bread and butter. So we've got about 66% of our grants. New grants are research infrastructure grants. Can that be horrible? You said something that fully funded
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: when we talk fully funded in the past. It's an argument that 0
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: the 74.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And I remember that when we were suggesting that we would apply for funding, people said, Well, where are you going to get the 49%? From at which point lots of things fell short.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It was just impossible to argue with that here.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: but it must still be positive like, how do we do this? I was hoping you wouldn't raise that question on overheads in general. Right? But is that something that you so research office can
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: work on right? That we that we because because this is a. It's fixed right? The Erc absolutely. And it's it's axiomatic. Right? There is number. Is is that what is that? The correct understanding that that's not something that on that side is not something that we can change. But on our side we have to look at whether you just suggest that people might actually continue doing exactly what they used to do just under through the European Union, at which point this must be a win for Stfc, yeah, it's for certain volume
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: right with money coming in from overall. The money's coming in. So this is the the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: most common issues that is raised with us. We did have victoria and I had a conversation with, and Claire
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: shepherd very recently. There were. There was a paper
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: 2 EB.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: On this subject, and Julie, if you're aware of the overheads
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: project and finance.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I know they're going well, they're going to where they've been talking about recalculating the the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: the overheads. But my, take on that is, I don't think the the percentage. I don't think that will resolve the issue, because that's a separate issue. That's no. The overheads are the overheads
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you can't do anything about. They may, you know you may. They may go up and down whatever I think the fundamental issue here is the perception that you funding actually is
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: make you a loss. And that's wrong.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: That's that's the fundamental issue. And I don't think that should happen. And I think
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: what we need here. The research office is not going to resolve this on its own, because this is a wider Sdfc issue and
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: think Snfc is.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I don't know how the other councils are absorbing the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: perceived loss, but because the way we operate involves such high overheads.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: is causing this negative perception that EU funding causes a deficit
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: to me. That's
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: that's an artificial construct.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I know that's what finance says that you know those these guys. They cost this much their salary plus 74%,
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: or being here. But let's not forget that a lot of people
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: working from home that are traveling, that are conducting their research elsewhere.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I think
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: the proposal.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And I think I you know
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I'm not saying this will happen, but
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: the suggestion is that perhaps you should create a fund a fund at national labs level to to absorb this silk seed overheads rather overhead loss rather than departments to absorb it.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It's often reasonably easy to solve it for the reactions, because that often refers to individuals. But when it comes to bigger things that cover multiple departments, it would need approval from multiple department directors, and then they need something that sits on top of it.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: right? But I think I mean the message here is that there are these opportunities, and it is happening right and okay. Yes, there is this headache of the overheads. And now that's viewed. But I think we should be very clear with people, you know, with individuals thinking about going for these grants.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It's wide open, right? You should do so. It brings in potentially, you know, really different flavor of research as well. Right it can be. It can be, you know, a completely different competition from what you do at the moment. So it can be something that you're doing, or it can be something really different and exciting. And I think that that's that's something to it's not. It's not just about the money. It's about the opportunities that accessing European funding.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And it's not just European funding. It's the recent European research area, because you know. Just think of your your careers, I mean, I'm not encouraging anything here. But
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: okay. So if you want a grant
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you can take you wherever you want. As long as it's in in in Europe, or
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you know the Law Associated Country, for example.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I'm just saying
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: before Brexit. Lots of people who came to the Uk.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: the exodus from the Uk prior to, you know, after the referendum. And and since since Brexit
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: couldn't been actually what people were suggesting.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So not that many researchers, some, but not that many, actually took their grants to Europe.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But you're absolutely right. Actions, actually, because they're the way they are funded. They're not funded on actual on unit costs.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It's it's certain amount set by the Commission. They're not subject to to the the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: open heads.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Yes.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So I was talking about research infrastructures.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: 2 thirds of our out of our applications and grants are for research, infrastructure goals, and we have been very, very successful.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: so only cover you.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: We'll have a look at that particular funding instrument, and I'll cover it in the next slides.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So pillar 2. This is the largest funding part.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So it covers global challenges, industrial new industrial competitiveness.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: We have applied as Sdfc to
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: clustered. So these are all clusters.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So to digital that's possible for digital industry and space
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and cluster 5 climate energy and mobility.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So these are the main costs that we apply for
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: there are some work programs under under development at the moment they haven't been published, but I can provide you
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: in confidence as long as they they stay within Stfc
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: we've got pillar. 3 innovative Europe European Innovation Council. 2
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Houses have gone in today.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So these are for supporting innovation in Europe in Europe.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: working with businesses. So they're more.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: For example.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: business oriented quite high. Trl.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: not all of them.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: pro program is structured in in 3 different.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: There's if you want.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So it starts with loyalty around the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I know that all we have applied for
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: learning participation is spreading excellence. So that's that's something to consider.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It's kind of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: more knowledge sharing of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: kind of capacity building with other countries.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: that are not. But well, the innovation class is not not as as strong as the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: right. We can move on
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: any questions so far.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: No.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: doesn't make sense.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Should have a more yeah sure question. So just
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: so as far as the grants are concerned, what's what's
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: what's the scope of grounds that
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you can apply for and also typically successful. So from the range, like really simple basic ground where maybe the research is already taking place, all you want is maybe funding to travel or to. Okay, I've got this big project where I need hardware staff. What's the range of projects that you can imagine?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: There's also some correlation to what a successful, if you say, Oh, I just want to meet once, we probably can get rejected. It depends. So, for example, European Research Council grants that forms your research. So they are really going for the novelty breakthrough technologies.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And that's why they are very competitive and very prestigious.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: there are the mice for those factory grounds. They, for example.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: going back to the Rc. Grounds, they they will pay for equipment. They will pay. So if you want a new laptop or new
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: fancy, Imac, as long as it's
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: is justified you can purchase it.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So it's Pi led
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: project and the Pr. Cards
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: his own team, their own team travels, conferences done the research, so forth.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: My response looks like every grant. It's about the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: very strong.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Okay, so it's about the the career, the the research, the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: research development. So that fits in with research and research development
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: program.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: the research infrastructures, the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: big collaborations. The funding. I'll I'll cover all that later make more sense on regarding specific
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: programs. So just a few things to know what types of projects will answer some of your questions. So types of projects. So you know, research
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: research innovation, they call them action. Is that
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: thanks?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So they would tell you that that's the where the Trl level is
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: 2, 2, 6, innovation actions
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: 206 to 9,
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: about 70% for Smes. They they call 100%. Now.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: no.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: fully funded. Most of the actions, most of the projects, so 100% plus 25% overheads. But there are some calls that don't fund 100%. So even on the research infrastructures, they will fund 70% or 80%. So you need funded the extra
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: it usually comes from. There are some other programs, such as Co fund on the only funded at 50%
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: program.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and coordination and support actions.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I think we're discussing earlier. They are fully finding 100% are more policy driven.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So the consult, yeah, there's a minimum. If you work in a in a partnership, there's a minimum eligibility criteria. There's a treaty criteria minimum, 3 independent legal entities, one of which has to be based in A
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: in the EU Member State
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and the other 2 could be associated country. So Uk can participate with.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you know, another
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: with Switzerland and France. Let's say that's the minimum
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: typical proposals. Could range from one to 10 million. But
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: we do have projects here that are in excess of 10 million. So it really really depends.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But that's the on average
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: duration 2 to 3 years. Again.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: these are collaborative projects that projects that last longer than that last 6 years, such as Erc synergy plans.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And if you get an extension
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: 6, 12 months.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you are to- to- to that, so
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: they could last a long time.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: project
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: original costs a hundred percent plus 25% or something about
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: oops.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So I was talking about European Research Council grants. So these are Erc funds for ambitious frontier research
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: submitted by
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: pi principal investigator in the area of research and predefined priorities. So these are important.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: You've got an idea
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and you try to implement it. Calamity projects are top down, where the Commission says there's priorities, and you have to come up with a proposal within the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: addressing those future.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: which is what permission tells us
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: to address
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Scientific excellence is the sole evaluation, criteria and scientific excellence of the Pr's track record
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: is is very, very significant.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: There are 3 different types of brands,
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: starting consolidator and advanced.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: There is another type of grant which is not there synergy Grant, which we we haven't had any synergy grants yet, but in the pipeline those are collaborative in 2 and 4 pis.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So from different institutions, the budget.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: all of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: or synergy grants, is up to 10 million. So the bigger, bigger grants and 6 years
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: situation.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So I'll if you are interested. There are quite a few proposals going in for signature plans at the moment. So that is not very.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: The requirements for Member States were similar
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: or within the Uk
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: good question, so
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: they can be solely within the Uk. So it's not it doesn't the the consult, the eligibility criteria doesn't apply with the 3
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: but they are very, very
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: competitive. But having said that I think the latest synergy grants have quite a high
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: success rate.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Think it was close to. I don't speculate. But it was 30 30 plus percent.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Okay, so these are,
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: this is the work program 2025, which is available now for the European Research Council, France.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and these are the calls that will be available.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: This has already open and
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: close was yesterday month.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: The Consolidated Grant has opened and it closes in January.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: The advance grant
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: closed.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And the synergy grant. Sorry?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: No, that's next year.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: if you mix up the videos. So it's just
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: one is closed recently. So there is a this is going to open in May.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So the as you see, the-the-
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: calls are not so. People like that.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: it's very good.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: know better than I. How long it takes to to write a an Erc. Grant. But I I was working with someone from the Pi. From Warwick, who actually wrote himself. The the application
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: needed some help with the budget, but
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: we did it in about
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: 30 days.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So, without help from the from the research office.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I'll fly. With that
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: he had a very clear idea what what to do, and as a result of that brand, now we have a proof of concept brand which followed that
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I didn't cover proof of concept grants, but you can't. Yeah see proof of concept grants. But you need to have a grant in order to
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: applied for proof of concept.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and he's now set up his own business.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: parts of, you know, work ventures. And so
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: it's really pretty well.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But he was really, really clear what he wanted us to do.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: okay.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So the synergy grant is still open.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: but
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: it's too late to- to apply for us.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and it takes a while to.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you know, to get the funding and start the project.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But they're very good at proceedings
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and conduct your- your own research.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and you have an indication. So the budgets and millions and indication of roughly how many
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: process will be funded?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Any questions? So far you mentioned the success rate of 35%. Do you know for these individual ones how we're doing for the individual grants or the synergy one, how we do compared, to say, a university to disclose all the numbers from your previous university. But comparing the lab with, You know the University sector, do you see much of a difference just on those individual. Yes.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I haven't seen the. I haven't done an analysis, because it's quite tricky to find the data that
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: if the level is not really really granular, I mean we can find it, but it takes a while.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: because the system's up.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: be temperamental, and also they'll skewed by the the guarantee.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I really don't know.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you know, unless we we go to to Ukri and get a list of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: they don't publish those statistics. So we need to go to the Uk. Right there. There is something on the dashboard it's called on the on the Ec. On the portal where you can get
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: data on per country number of participations, and also the institutions. See which institutions are doing the best in Europe.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But again, the data for the Uk is skewed
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: will tell you the participations. But it's not going to tell you the success rate, and it's not going to tell you the amount of money.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and I guess the thing is that there are. I mean, you've come from a university system where there's a lot of support for grant writing, and I think that we have to make sure that we engage with the opportunities that there are here, and actually Julius's experience and Catherine's, and but yours in particular, because I think you were supporting Erc. Grant writing in the Universities.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and that's a really great thing to have in Stfc. That we should have that dialogue. And if you have an idea, then I think if I if I can share something, we're not doing very well in terms of grants. There is a reason for that. So one of the comments from a
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I think it. There was a horizon. Europe, one of the early applications for standard
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: starting grounds. We actually starting grounds. One of the comments in Europe was that
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: this research, it hasn't
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: efficiently showed the independence independent research.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Okay? So that's 1 of the things that probably need to think about.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: How can we support individual pis? Because, you know, you're working part of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: teams, sometimes quite wider, teams scattered all over the country and mostly Europe.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: That's not a lab specific thing, right? That's a field specific thing. So, and that is the challenge always for multiple businesses, right? That we work really collaboratively. And that's a brilliant thing. But then we need to draw out what the individual does so, I think, engaging with.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you know Julia's and and with colleagues, and with these training events, with helps you to think about that. That side of things draw out that part, doesn't it? Because it is a field? It's an issue of our field that we need to have
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: collaboration. That's a great thing. And then you say, why is it that you could? Something that wouldn't have happened otherwise
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: if if we know the other thing is.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and you all worked on on.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: particularly you funding. You would know that
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: the very last minute proposals going in. So we are. We tend to be approached.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: This is, I'm not passing any judgment here. It's just what's happening. So we are being reactive.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: We are approached for various reasons. We're approached by other people. Other organizations quite late.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And that puts a lot of pressure on on our resources.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: with, that's particularly for club projects. That's the case. And I have couple of examples today when we're still working on the budget this morning.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and I only found out about this 2 proposals in the last few days.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and sometimes they don't even go they register.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Oh, did it? Oh, so much more to cover!
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But maybe I have more more time, because I've already asked some answer some questions.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So my school obstructive degree grants, I've covered some of some of the the aspects. So the research projects, they fund research projects with training aspects bottom up in any subject area.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Oh.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: they facilitate research and mobility, interdisciplinary, intersectoral and international.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: If you want specific
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: training, information sessions whatever. I'm quite happy to go into more detail. And
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you know all this specific funding instruments.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So they enhance the skills and careers of researchers durations.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: The project is between 12 and 36 months
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and budget costs, and these are some of the current, open and upcoming calls. So doctoral networks open deadline, 27th of November, and
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: let me see.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Well, I'll circulate this
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: this these slides.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: that will be, I'm sure. That will be of interest, so you can't see, that's 2025.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I'm running past people being more attractive.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Fine
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: research infrastructures. Please do. Take this with a pinch of salt, one saying that this is based on the information based on
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: down down here from this point down, this information is
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and draft.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So what we know for certain, having said that what we know for certain, we know what the opening deadline the opening
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: today for the callers.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: usually much earlier in the year.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: this this time around because of the European elections and the format of commissioners
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: that's taken forever. They move the deadlines next year. So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: this is going to be interesting next summer.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: This deadline is the 18th of September, so I suspect there will be lots and lots of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: there. She's here again. So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: we think how we're going to manage that. So the earlier you think of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: joining a project that would better.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I can circulate the draft program.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But please keep it.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Can I just make one remark on that slide. I think this is really a key bit on the previous one. This is a key place where labs, I think, have an advantage. I don't know if you are here in part to do infrastructure all of the brilliant individual research that applies to those other schemes, but this is a part that I think that we should really seriously think about when we're going to come together to talk about strategy in the coming weeks. And this is one of the things that we should think about.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And there are ideas out there that aren't necessarily math based that people are thinking about. I'll give you an example of the half accelerator, which is this concept at the moment, which is a half plasma, half standard acceleration. This is a place where I think we can really gain it. Would you absolutely, totally agree? And the other thing is, we tend to compete with other departments. We need to know.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: We need to know how many proposals are going in
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: when people are thinking about putting in a proposal, but because of the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: fact that we we are being approached quite late.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: we don't always know. And this proposal
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: popping up on the on the big register very, very late. So you know, maybe maybe you know we should. There should be a bit more coordination with other departments. So we don't compete, I mean.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: is an element of competition.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and the more proposals put in.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: You know the great chance you have to to get one, but several.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: But we did buy one last month, or we bought 5.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: All good.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I mean what the success rate has gone. But
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: right past the port I mentioned past the port already. There are 2
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Well.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: so the digital industry and space.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I think digital and industry will be of interest. I've called the draft work program. I can share that with you.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I'm not going through these all quality projects. So please do have a look at the topics
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: we call them.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Commission calls in the destination, which are kind of strategic priorities. Policy priorities have a look at those destinations definitely find something of interest there.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: If you don't know what to look for.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: it starts to me, what
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: state? What? Your drop me, an email state, what your research interest is?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Class of 5, climate energy, mobility, energy definitely.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So again, there is a draft, but program hasn't been approved yet.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: program committee meetings are meeting next month
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: like finalize them, do get some time.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: While we participation. I mentioned this briefly. This is for plastic building. I think all we were interested. I think they participate in a proposal. So again.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: that's something of interest that
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I can. I can request specific calls for you.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Moving on. This is cost again, boldly participate in the cost proposal.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: This is kind of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: pre horizon Europe. So if you're new to to the program, you want to be part of a of a
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: partnership, you can. You can have access. Also.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I don't think we've had any proposals on the cost. But keep an eye on this.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and you can join at any point. I think that's more like the thing you were talking about, Manny. So it's really it's no.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: don't get any effort from it, but it's a it's a. It's a network building thing.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and it funds, funds, things like, you know, events travel. It doesn't fund stuff
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: how to access funding. Well, 1st port of call is us. Come and talk to us. Sign up to the Research Bulletin Search Office Bulletin, and
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you find the attendance portal. I don't. We don't have time to look at the the portal now, but
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: we can run a session on that.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: That's just worked out. So
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: sign up for the Bulletin.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: This is the research office support. And the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: basically for you ground management cycle. I'm still looking as a as a Pm. I'm still looking after a Gen. Jennifer to project.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I need to talk to you about that one.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So we offer you full support. Approval across the board can touch upon this. I'm not going through to this too much, but we can help you with.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: We are quite happy to have a look at the draft. We're quite happy to
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: top to matching contact points, and they not all of them, but some of them, and I know who which ones they are. They can offer actually a proposal to be
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: so resources and contacts. And I think that's it.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Anybody have any burning questions that haven't been asked?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Daisy swear by sending out their
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Grant proposals to an independent reviewer to make sure it has all the EU buzzwords in it. Do we do that, or have that expertise in house?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: that's a that's an interesting one, I mean, if they see if they if they do that. They there are certain calls that are very, very you need technical expertise. Okay.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and also
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: those videos. Actually.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: there are people who are reviewers, they review proposals, and so they are registered on the on the new portal.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: You are technical expert.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I would suggest.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: We want to pay as well as well.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It pays €450 per day. But do register
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: as a video. If you go interest.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you, register on the website. I can. I can. I can share the the details with you. A lot of people do that. Universities do that. People working in resource services. Do that? I know a few pis within Sdfc who have been reviewers.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Wow!
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: To have we didn't. I know at least one department who paid as part of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: consortium paid for for a external consultant to write the application or improve
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: certain sections, especially the Green Park section.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: I don't think we've got that kind of capacity yet.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And there are good reasons for it. Because you need
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: We can help you with that we can certainly help you with the Rc. Grants and and my grants.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: You need to have a
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: depends. Again, it depends which which which funding you are applying for. But
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: if it's more commercial or commercial,
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: choose to answer.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you need somebody who's
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: what's in business development
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: with that kind of
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: knowledge of the sector.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Okay?
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And then a follow up question. Then.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: on Horizon Aida, the overheads of managing it
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: was enormous.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: and I think we spent more time managing it and filling in forms and actually doing any work.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Has that improved
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: well for a start? The over you don't. We don't report on overheads. The overheads are just given to you 25%. You don't have to justify them
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: right? But we had to justify every hour we worked on it, and we had to fill in
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: paper, and I don't know if that's the time sheet.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Now. The Commission is trying to move away from from the system of keeping time sheets. Now, what the Commission are saying is that it's the institution's own practices. So if the practice is to keep time sheets, they don't have to keep time sheets.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: If we're moving to. If the you know, if we decide that for you again, we need to have a policy right across the country. Oh.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: for any other Ukri fund projects. We keep timesheets, but not for E project.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So it's got to be a policy across the organization. Now, the other thing is.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: they're moving away towards this lump sum funding model, which is minimum.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: it's all minimum accountability. It's mini-minimum accounting evidence.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Required. Okay, so we just need to clarify
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: before you when you
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: let's see if it looks like.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: because we're still, we're public body. We're still accountable
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: to match more bits.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: And
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: yeah, we need to
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: still need to keep
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: timesheet. I think we can work around that make it much easier.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: There is support in finance that people. There's some students who help with the time sheet. So there is support.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: They can generate time sheets, they can collect them.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: So I'm no expert on this, because it's all Esa through.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: It's on the number of things that you
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: project. But so you still seem to complain about having to do time sheets and things. Another one like the
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: what's the time sheet things we do? Yes.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: does indicate that maybe it's different in different departments, and
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: possibly different in different countries
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: that the Uk auditors are more
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: stringent.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: No, I wouldn't say that. If you ever had an audit from the European Commission or from, and some of them are. Yeah. Some of them are Uk appointed, but all from the European Court of Auditors. You'd appreciate
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: why? Why, we need to keep time sheets, because they actually do ask for for that. There. There is another thing here. They so essentially, it's up to the institution. Okay? So it's institutions own accounting procedures and policies. So that's our procedures policies. We need to keep time sheets.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Try to simplify them.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Let's see how
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: the other the other point I want to make is that
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: you. If the time sheets
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: don't provide sufficient information, or they don't exist, or that filled in incorrectly, there is something else but they they would. The auditors would want to see is alternative evidence. And that's
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: subject interpretation. So you need to prove they worked on a certain project. And I I've been myself through that kind of audit
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: where you know you think. Oh, my God! Why didn't I keep timesheets
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: so
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: because they want to look at everything last books, you know, when you entered the building when you left, how much time you worked on the project. And so yeah, there's a good reason for that.
STFC-RAL-CR03 R61: Thanks for coming.